How is something made...fun?

Ok so here's the scenario:

A friend and I are just talking, and this topic comes up, how he makes everything kinda competitive. To prove that he can accomplish something (He fails a lot sadly). So I ask him why not make things competitive and fun at the same. And there's the question.

So how is it that something is made "fun"? I don't know how to answer this question myself so maybe you guys can help me. What do you think it means to make something fun?

The same on how you make something competitive.
(Ya'll are throwing rocks randomly.)
Competitive way:
Hey! I think I can throw this rock further than you can.
-Okay Challenge!

Fun way:
Hey! Let's hit this tree with these rocks.

Both ways:
Hey! Let's see who can hit that stop sign that is waaaay out there first to hit it WINS!

Basically the both of you can enjoy the 'fun' part.

yeah,basically,to have fun is to enjoy something no matter what the outcome is (talking bout a challenge,for example)


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but I think it is possible to be fun and cmpetitive at the same time like what DJR said.

It's only fun when you enjoy using it all the time.

Basically the terms fun and competitive have a tendency to be complete antinomies.

The term fun requires that both of you have fun and usually you do, however when you say competitive you mean playing to win and often a game will only be fun if you complete, or get close to completing, your goals.

Unfortunately your goal in a competitive game is to win, which cannot happen for everybody.

Now this usually won't be a problem if the game is evenly matched, both will come close but one will steal it and the other will have had fun.

However, in order to get closer and closer you have to get better and better. When you get better and better quickly, people who get better at a slower rate will do worse. This will steadily make it less fun for them.

So really the only way to make things fun would be to heavily reduce the skill factor, and make it very random. Although this can make things boring since it usually lacks much of an aim
E.g. Throw a dice, whoever gets the highest number wins

it can be fun if you have lots of chances, such as in card games, which is why that form of entertainment hasn't died along with pushing hoops down a road with a stick.