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PostSubject: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyFri Mar 29, 2013 11:10 pm

So yeah I've decided to go on the road of dn admin. I know a lot of people take the exam but don't really try to become dn admin. I did read up on article of recent admins who and their hardships with some good times, but I think this what I want. I want to have the knowledge and be able to use it and know it. I know there are a couple admins here, and I want to ask you: how and what did you do to become admin on dn? I've asked a couple. So far king wolfy told me to start with the battle phase.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyFri Mar 29, 2013 11:23 pm

Official Rulebook: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/YGO_RuleBook_EN-v8.pdf

How to read the new Problem Solving Card Text (PSCT):
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2906
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2915
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2947
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=2962
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=3111
http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=3140

Important stuff:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/SEGOC
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Priority
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Missing_the_Timing
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Breakdown_of_the_Battle_Phase (only need to read the TCG one)

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Replay
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Infinite_Loop
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Condition_Effect
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Lingering_Effect
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Summoning_mechanics
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activation_%26_Targeting_Eligibility

Frequently troublesome rulings:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Skill_Drain
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Effect_Veiler
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Thunder_King_Rai-Oh
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Light_and_Darkness_Dragon
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Rivalry_of_Warlords
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Solemn_Warning
http://forum.tcgplayer.com/showthread.php?242194-Effect-Veiler-vs-a-Lightsworn-monster&p=2581692&viewfull=1#post2581692

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Btw, even if you know all of this you still may not become an admin. I personally fail at the tournament policy/DN punishment table questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 12:58 am

Well, the only thing I actually did was just read the official rule book as Lawliet posted in the link and memorized them by heart. To top things off, I did it with DN's rules as well.

Pretty much, I just used what I learn in any situation and shiz.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 4:44 am

Thanks guys
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 5:19 am

Or you could answer each question as quickly as possible without reading anything at all.

#yolo
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 10:01 pm

No no! You don't memorize rulings, you need to understand them - how they work.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 11:02 pm

Every person has their own way of studying so just do anything that's comfortable with you smile
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 1:22 am

And one more thing MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO READ CARDS. You need to be able to notice how cards work and the difference between the card saying "Negate the summon" and "Negate the activation" and other different things in cards. Know how to read the cards
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 2:37 am

Bloody Kaizer wrote:
Every person has their own way of studying so just do anything that's comfortable with you smile

If you only memorize rulings and not understand them, you will fail.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySun Mar 31, 2013 2:39 am

Bloody Kaizer wrote:
Every person has their own way of studying so just do anything that's comfortable with you smile
That's not the issue. The thing is, you are not required to know individual card rulings at all. You can just open wikia in a new tab for that. In fact, you are encouraged to do exactly that. Neither dn admins nor judges are expected to be walking encyclopedias of individual card rulings.
Jaden H wrote:
And one more thing MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO READ CARDS. You need to be able to notice how cards work and the difference between the card saying "Negate the summon" and "Negate the activation" and other different things in cards. Know how to read the cards
If anyone can't tell the difference between negating summons and negating activations, I suggest they just give up...
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 6:30 am

I took Joco's test and failed miserably. Any tips on learning LADD rulings?
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 8:15 am

Priorities I suppose.

I warn you, the end of the road to becoming a DN admin is not sex. It is DN adminship. The two are very different things.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 8:39 am

dont take tests other than the ones you need. When people make tests, unless they have to have a result other than do it for fun, they tend to do unnecessary things and fill it with obscure situations (heck, dn test is not a good one either in that sense, but at least they try to make it relevant, probably because "normal" people in relation to rulings complain, rightfully so). For ladd, you could just read its wikia page. That plus psct will answer most situations you'll ever come across. In case you want to know the obscure things for troll tests or out of curiousity, I guess the things that come to mind are:
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or you could just read the entry in ness's old blog, he knows better than me http://ygorulings.blogspot.gr/2010/05/blacklight.html
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyTue Apr 30, 2013 1:53 pm

is trying to switch to defense, forming the chain CL1: monk, CL2: garden, CL3: Ladd.

Something I wanted to clarify with the links. I summon monk, I ask my opponent if he has a response (which negates the summon) if not, monk's effect triggers, then if my opp responds to the eff of monk (in this case garden) since it also triggers, then Ladd. But why couldn't Ladd be used link 2? It's like garden triggers on summon of monk, but monk eff on summon activates before garden but Ladd triggers off of monk... Also if someone wanted to randomly just use compulsory on monk just to make things more complicated. Link 1 monk link 2 compulse link 3 garden link 4 Ladd? I ask this, because this was the only thing a little confusing to me. Sorry if I sound like an idiot .
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyWed May 01, 2013 3:31 am

onlyaaron17 wrote:
is trying to switch to defense, forming the chain CL1: monk, CL2: garden, CL3: Ladd.

Something I wanted to clarify with the links. I summon monk, I ask my opponent if he has a response (which negates the summon) if not, monk's effect triggers, then if my opp responds to the eff of monk (in this case garden) since it also triggers, then Ladd. But why couldn't Ladd be used link 2? It's like garden triggers on summon of monk, but monk eff on summon activates before garden but Ladd triggers off of monk... Also if someone wanted to randomly just use compulsory on monk just to make things more complicated. Link 1 monk link 2 compulse link 3 garden link 4 Ladd? I ask this, because this was the only thing a little confusing to me. Sorry if I sound like an idiot .
The opponent isn't responding with his garden on his own volition, you don't ask him on summon response since he has no say in it, and even if it was optional, both players would still have no say in the timing or responses (triggers override priority). Black Garden has a mandatory trigger-like effect, that effect activates in response to the summon of the monster. The effect of summoner monk which switches it to def also activates in response to his summon. That means both effects activate at the same timing (in response to the summon of summoner monk) and form a chain as per SEGOC. Nothing interferes between SEGOC chain links, first you form them by their rules and then you start responding by chaining to the last chain link.
LaDD in this case is not part of that SEGOC type chain, he is triggered by the activation of the effect of summoner monk, not by the summon. So he waits until the SEGOC chain is formed fully to activate.

If a player wanted to use something like compulsory evacuation device here it would have to be on at least chain link 4. First 2 chain links have to be the SEGOC links, then ladd has to be added first since it is mandatory (being mandatory it follows rules similar to triggers, no choice and priority involved), then the opponent of the player who controls ladd has a chance to respond first with another card like said CED, then the controller of ladd if the other player passes.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyWed May 01, 2013 7:56 am

onlyaaron17 wrote:
is trying to switch to defense, forming the chain CL1: monk, CL2: garden, CL3: Ladd.

Something I wanted to clarify with the links. I summon monk, I ask my opponent if he has a response (which negates the summon) if not, monk's effect triggers, then if my opp responds to the eff of monk (in this case garden) since it also triggers, then Ladd. But why couldn't Ladd be used link 2? It's like garden triggers on summon of monk, but monk eff on summon activates before garden but Ladd triggers off of monk... Also if someone wanted to randomly just use compulsory on monk just to make things more complicated. Link 1 monk link 2 compulse link 3 garden link 4 Ladd? I ask this, because this was the only thing a little confusing to me. Sorry if I sound like an idiot .

Alright that makes sense.
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptyFri May 03, 2013 8:25 am

I got an 85% and passed the level one judge ruling test... Is that bad? Were are still talking 3/20 questions missed and since they never tell you what you got wrong, its like "ok".
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PostSubject: Re: Road to dn admin   Road to dn admin EmptySat May 04, 2013 8:07 am

Be charismatic and make unnecessarily huge, wordy posts at every topic. This is coming from experience trust me, it works. 8D
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