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Who is your favorite? | Kousaka Kirino | | 22% | [ 2 ] | Aragaki Ayase | | 22% | [ 2 ] | Gokou Ruri (Kuroneko) | | 44% | [ 4 ] | Bajiina Saori | | 11% | [ 1 ] | Tamura Manami | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Kurusu Kanako | | 0% | [ 0 ] |
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Kitouski WDA Staff
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| Subject: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:10 pm | |
| After finishing this anime, I talked about it in the chat and I realized... nearly everyone has seen it. Some suggested rewriting the ending as a topic, but that sounds a bit expansive, but why not a discussion on it with who your favorite love interest/female character is and why? Leave a vote and tell us what makes them your favorite! Keep spoilers in spoiler tags, that includes mentioning who "won"/if anyone "won". NOTE: 2 Otaku Points go to all people who join the discussion.__________ ...so I started off hating Kirino, loving Ruri and having no opinion of everyone else. My opinions didn't change at all until season 2 hit... - Spoiler:
With Kuroneko's asking the main character out and then dumping him, I lost a whole lot of respect for both her and the main character... the main character because he has no balls what so ever (seriously why are you even inviting her to places?) and her because she's making a game out of it. I know what it's supposed to be a learning step for the main character and symbolic but do you need to mess with EVERYONE to get the point across?
While in Season 2 though, my opinion of Kirino got slightly better and my opinion of Ayase went through the roof. Seriously, there's something about her that I just grew to like... I don't how to explain it or what it is, but she went from somewhat creepy to very fun and pretty human. She's getting my vote. | |
| | | Leokane Zombie Child
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:47 pm | |
| I picked Bajii just cause. To discuss why it's because the name I guess. 2 points thank you. | |
| | | datchison18 WDA Member
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:50 pm | |
| lack of manami in this topic scares me | |
| | | Supasmash WDA Member
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:51 pm | |
| Kuroneko because Kuroneko~ | |
| | | Kitouski WDA Staff
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:57 pm | |
| I'll probably make this more clear next time, but just for the time being so everyone knows when it comes to the Otaku Points, (especially you Leokane xD; ) - Kitouski wrote:
- NOTE: 2 Otaku Points go to all people who join the discussion.
More specifically, a real explanation on why, why not others and/or why you don't have much to say on your pick. This is to prevent anyone from just throwing in a pick without giving thought to the topic... which is fine as long as it doesn't constitute as spam and you're not aiming for points because you won't get points for it. | |
| | | danna45 WDA Member
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:09 pm | |
| Long Version - Spoiler:
Well, at first, Oreimo seemed like a comedy. A bored, sarcastic big brother who has to deal with his little, annoying, perverted sister and her lesbian fetishes. Essentially the story is based on Kirino, with Kyousuke being a supporting character that we see the story from. Kirino meeting Saori and Kuroneko, being friends with Ayase, dealing with making sure her parents doesn't find her otaku hobbies, and Kyousuke hesitantly helping her out.
First set of OVAs came, and we have some great development for Kuroneko, and the ship bait starts. While the OVA was one of the most enjoyable of the whole series, it's also when the series starts to fail, because with the OVAs, something wrong came into the picture. Romance. Which by itself isn't anything, but the central focus here was on Kyousuke, not Kirino. If it was say, Kirino suddenly liking someone or having someone who likes her and doesn't know how to handle it, then yes that'd be great, and potential for Kyousuke being overly protective of the (un)lucky guy and character development. Instead here is when Kyousuke starts becoming the main character and 'Oreimo' becomes not about the sister with a brother, but about the brother who has a sister.
Then, S2 came, and the first few episodes were enjoyable, mainly developing more of the cast. That one episode about Saori and her past is gold/10 material, and there's more about Kyousuke x Kuroneko ship, which was good and all. Then, drama. Kirino doesn't approve, does a lot of shit, things become dramatic, and its when the series truly falls down the gutter. Yes, Mikagami is a cool character and my favorite male character in the cast, but the whole Fake Boyfriend incident ruined Kuroneko's character AND only made Kirino more annoying as an annoying jealous brat who doesn't have any traits that would make me like her. The 'dere' side of Kirino barely even shows. Then, more stuff happens, and then HOLY GOOD LORD AYASE PLEASE BEAR MY CHILDREN AND BECOME MY WIFE. First of all, back in season 1, the Ayase ship was fairly bland to me, and I honestly had no opinion on it. She was a fun character enough, due to her relationship with the two Kousakas, and how Kyousuke and Ayase's relationship has Kirino as the foundation. In a sense, Ayase is a tsundere done right. At first, she was hostile to Kyousuke, then she viewed Kyousuke as a kind of underling in her conquest to win Kirino's heart. Then she fell for Kyousuke. The path from her tsun side to her dere side wasn't particularly well-written or anything, but her dere side is adorable. Ayase by the end was lovely, and holy fuck Kyousuke why would you reject her? She's the perfect waifu, the perfect Oreimo(so to speak). Plus, she's also yandere and who doesn't want a yandere?
Then, OVA2 came, and incest goes real, Kuroneko gets rejected(Goodbye young Catgirl), and WOOOOAAAAAHHHH MANAMIPUNCH, THE PUNCH THAT MADE ME RESPECT HER AS A CHARACTER. After spending the majority of the series doing her very best to be a docile, overly kind person to everyone, she finally lets loose and shows Kirino what she truly thinks. Manami is a bro. The bro of Oreimo.
Anyways, yeah, in the end, I'd view back on S1 and OVA in a good light and can legitimately say I enjoyed them. S2 will mostly be a guilty pleasure to me, but thanks to Saori and Ayase it was enjoyable. S2 OVA, nope, only good thing there was that beautiful glorious punch that sounded like trumpets in a Yoko Kanno-composed OST for me. Otherwise, wouldn't watch again.
Abridged version: S1: Kirino - Mid-low tier Ayase - Mid tier Saori - GOD TIER Kuroneko - Mid tier Manami - Mid low tier OVA: Kirino - Mid-low tier Ayase - Mid-low tier Saori - GOD TIER Kuroneko - ANGEL TIER Manami - Mid-low tier S2: Kirino - Low tier Ayase - WAIFU TIER(Higher than GOD TIER, for reference) Saori - GOD TIER Kuroneko - Lucifer tier Manami - Low tier Kanako - Who? OVA Kirino - Snake tier Ayase - Gone but not forgotten Saori - Needs more screen time as well tier Kuroneko - Sad but in the end I didn't care too much tier Manami - Bro tier, welcome to the hall of brodom, where people like Junpei or Kamina reside Kanako - Well she took the rejection like a man tier Bridget - I'D TAP DAT VOICE TIER Sena - CONGRATS TO YOU AND MAKABE HOPE YOU TWO LIVE HAPPY TIER | |
| | | Nour Force Magical Girl
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:50 pm | |
| - Supasmash wrote:
- Kuroneko because Kuroneko~
This. Kuroneko's cute. To be honest I haven't watched season 2 of Oreimo. I've only tried one episode of it, so we can't really say I 'tried' it either. I voted Kuroneko because... well, the same reason you'd vote for any of the characters; she's cute. I was going to write a small discussion but this seems more of a guy waifu discussion so yeah, I'm just going to say Kuroneko because Kuroneko~ | |
| | | Alibaba Red-Eyed Warrior
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:20 pm | |
| well, i chose kirino. as to why... hmmm well for 1 she was the most consistent character throughout the thing with development. i like building on the character rather than building over the character while developing, i'd rather see into the actions and what they are and what they mean than see a character change when developed. she also seemed like honestly the least stupid case which is saying a lot considering what oreimo has. and i actually liked how choosing kirino made him have to deal with the others, something that wouldn't be a thing with the other heroins. idk i guess i also like how she felt something she wasn't supposed to feel but couldn't ignore it, i like that she didn't know how to deal with her emotions which makes sense. i also think she's cute and i like tsunderes and personally even though i like the other characters i think kirino was the best story wise which is also a plus from me. idk maybe i'm just hipster and don't want to go mainstream with ayase and kurnoneko don't get me wrong i really like kuroneko too but kirino is just slightly above her for me also i don't like ayase, i could write an article about why she's sucky to me but i don't wanna throw that in the faces of people who like her :v yes i actually did write an article in here about why i think ayase sucks but then deleted it cuz i saw people liking heralso finally: | |
| | | akaFila Splash Duelist
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:10 am | |
| Haider dirty people jew, look at all the choices, now look at Kuroneko, now back at the others, now back at Kuroneko. Sadly, they aren't Kuroneko.
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| | | josh WDA Member
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:32 am | |
| i pick Kousaka Kirino because i like the name if that is ok | |
| | | Centrik Mini Gear
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:05 am | |
| Kuroneko because I'm so horny.
Good reason much? | |
| | | Al-Bhed Machina Mechanic
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| Subject: Re: Vs Series #2: The Oreimo Champion Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:27 am | |
| Ayase for me, how can a girl be so perfect yet so messed up and interesting.
Kirino is good but I feel that (A) she is outclassed by Ayase's killer combination, (B) same as Kuroneko, she is annoying in not knowing wtf to do with herself constantly, one part of that being for both of them the whole "let's get together and then break up" thing. To be fair, it's all justified by their age, and while you can still sympathize with them as a character and feel that they are cute and a bunch of other qualities, they lose a bunch of waifu points, and isn't that all that matters in the end between otaku. Also, it's not like it's ok because they are young, they are the only 2 carrying this quality, Ayase just has it manifest a bit with her teen girl on girl crush, but generally can get a grip on her own on stuff without being led by the hand, while Kanako (2nd fave) has maturity inversely proportional to her height, which is a plus. | |
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